Wednesday news and notes around the M61 musicsphere
Owner of Cherrypeel.com contacts M61; New users settling in at Uvumi.com; TheSixtyOne.com filters out user comments on Facebook page
Bo Claypool of Cherrypeel.com has opened contact with M61, looking for feedback on how Cherrypeel and sites like it can encourage “the return of music to an art form, rather than an industry.”
Cherrypeel.com was originally the brainchild of two college students in Toronto. Claypool bought the site last year.
“I have a passion for music and the Internet, and Cherrypeel is, in many ways, beyond just a hobby; it’s a way to help Austin musicians really showcase their music,” Claypool told the Austin Business Journal in September 2009.
Responding to Claypool’s inquiry, M61 said that maintaining a communal aspect to music was key.
“The community that detached from T61 did so primarily because the community aspect was ripped out of the format,” M61 said to Claypool. “From that large group of people, many listeners loved communicating with the artist and vice versa. When that was taken away, a lot of the ‘heart’ of the site was lost. At a close second was the lack of respect and communication that James and Sam showed to the community. By not communicating any changes and not including documentation on how to use the new design, they alienated their customer base further.”
“The community aspect of music will likely be key to capturing music as an art form,” M61 added.
An interview with Bo has been requested to get his take on Cherrypeel.com and what independent music means to him and his site. Stay tuned.
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As the first wave of thesixtyone.com refugees settles into Uvumi.com, new artists and listeners continue to show up there. Meanwhile, Marshall Stokes continues to respond to community requests and minor site load issues. In a comment on this site’s third blog post, Stokes reached out to a user from India that complained that he was “blocked” from accessing the site. It’s unknown if the issue has been resolved, but as the user indicated that he had to use a proxy to access the site, it’s possible the user’s ISP may be partially responsible.
Meanwhile, users are encouraged to give a little leeway to Stokes while he and his team addresses issues. As forum user PaulNZ explained: “The team at Uvumi have shown themselves to be open and responsive to ideas (but lets not swamp them too much right now, I imagine they are busy enough dealing with the sudden growth!)”
M61 is reaching out to Stokes for an interview about the site’s design and inspiration behind it. More news to come.
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In a move that alienated thesixtyone.com users (past and present) even further, owners James and Sam have filtered user comments out of the main stream of their T61 Facebook page and have defaulted all comments on user posts in the user stream to a hidden status. Additionally, they disabled the ability to make wall posts, even in the user stream.
The last accepted user comment was at 5:56 p.m. on January 26. Since then, users have been posting comments in that post listed as “Charlie Pattinson – How do I… CALM THE F— DOWN?!”.
“Wow… just wow. Instead of fixing problems, they’re attempting to stop us talking about it?” commented user Joel Rich.
“[H]ow is censoring your (rapidly decreasing in number) fans going to help your already crappy rep right now?!” asked user Tammy Tamkin.
It’s unknown whether T61 will ever open up commenting again on their fan page. However, it’s clear that the owners are attempting to perform some sort of damage control in the wake of their highly unpopular changes and avoidance tactics. Others have noted in the past that James and Sam have been unresponsive to most communication attempts and have ignored users in the past.
“It’s bad enough when you ignore your users — it’s even worse when you can’t take responsibility for it,” said forum user xyresic.

I’m really quite excited to see CherryPeel and Uvumi take the time and effort to reach out. Now more than ever, the old t61 user-base needs someone who will actively listen to it. Being able to recognize this, and take the initiative, demonstrates that both CherryPeel and Uvumi have the ability to support great music communities. As a new user to both sites, it’s very reassuring to see this.
Of course, props to you too Shawn for all your hard work! It’s very much appreciated. As a side note, I’m glad you’ve used my words for something constructive–gooddness knows I mostly use them to incessantly rant :’)
i’m able to access Uvumi after replacing my local Indian ISP DNS to Google Public DNS (8.8.8.8)
I’m actually kind of glad this has happened to T61, I honestly love Uvumi and I would’ve never seen it had T61 still been around.
I know I am a little late with this info. But I am in studio writing a new album and my time is limited these days. I am unable to join Uvumi due to the contract for artist they have. It is not acceptable. Yes, Our team reads that stuff and has to take it seriously. You should too… Anyways, There is a community for indie artist that has been around a decade. It is friendly, detailed, and I highly recomend it. For community and netwroking I have found no site better. It is called D-Music. http://www.dmusic.com/ The only thing it is missing is more amazing artist and music lovers like you! Hope you guys join.
@Casey Fallen I’m extremely interested in hearing about what aspect of the Uvumi artist contract you don’t find acceptable. Simply just saying that you don’t agree with it tells me nothing. Let me know what your objection is to it, and I can reference it in the blog. Fill the users in on what the issue is, please.
Warm regards,
lostraven / Shawn
@JediDude What are you enjoying about Uvumi the most so far, Jedi?
Warm regards,
lostraven / Shawn
@Daniel That’s excellent news, Daniel! I’m glad Marshall and his team were able to help you out.
Warm regards,
lostraven / Shawn
@xyresic I’ve been ranting a lot myself lately. I hope I didn’t take your quote out of context. I know that it’s easy to do that when reporting news and the like.
Warm regards,
lostraven / Shawn
@Casey Fallen
Your accusation sounds a bit slanderous to me. We (Uvumi.com) actually have the friendliest, least scary license agreement you’ll find on any website that lets artists promote their music. Our license gives full control to the artist and allows them to revoke said license any time, in a matter of minutes by simply deleting their account on Uvumi.com. Once they perform that action, we literally delete the files from our servers, and retain no distribution license of any kind.
On Uvumi.com artists keep their copyrights and maintain control and ownership of their work.
I strongly encourage everyone to read Uvumi’s terms of service and decide for themselves: http://uvumi.com/tos
Again Props to Marshall and the team at Uvumi for listening and responding, and also for encouraging transparency. The Terms of Service ( http://uvumi.com/tos ) seem quite reasonable. Following the t61 experience it is disconcerting to read Uvumi’s rights to discontinue or change any aspect of the site, however it absolutely makes sense that the site owners have that right, it has been seen what happens if site owners abuse that right, and I for one put my trust in Team Uvumi!
Perhaps they are scared that you might Promote their music? OMG! How dare you support Artists in such positive and constructive ways!!
Thanks again to Shawn, your work is tremendous (and you are incredibly kind to cite me I only wish I said more useful things DX I’m off to
continue chilling out to the tunes at http://Uvumi.com!
i posted a little blog on my site about the whole t61 mess. it’s probably all stuff that has already been discussed, but please feel free to comment / vent and let my site visitors know what you think about all this…
http://www.stateshirt.com/2010/01/29/thesixtyone-what-happened/
@Paul Thank you for taking an active part in promoting and passing along information. Bird’s the word.
Warm regards,
Shawn
@state shirt I’ll add your blog entry to the library this afternoon. Thanks for everything you’ve done!
Warm regards,
Shawn
@Shawn Douglas It seems to be set up a lot better. The genre list (although it did take me a while to find) is much much better than what T61 had. I also like that you can become a fan of an artist and it will inform you if they post new music, which I don’t remember being able to do on T61 other than though comments on each others profiles. All in all its just a ton more user friendly.